Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Ya saben amigo, el que sigue la necio es peor que él, asi que ya saben nuestra mejor arma es ignorar. nicoli u otro amigo peruano, tienen fotos de Huanaco?, fotos en situ?, serian bonitas. Me bebo otro trago , wow!!!, si es que esta rico el masato. Saludos.
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! nicoli buena idea lo de abrir otro post . Ahhh y el masato jejejeje verlo producirse da cosa , pero sabe rico
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Aca les dejo un link sobre las orquideas endemicas del Perú Endémicas del Perú
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! jajaja, esta bueno amigo, preguntaba por la zona de que hablaba nicoli, jajaja, pero esta bien. Saludos cordiales.
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Weno corrigiendo mi error creo que entrando aqui puedes conocer mejor el departamento de Huánuco. Espero veas todas las fotos pork son muy interesantes...
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! yo cometi el error, saludos, esta muy bueno el documento. Cuentame de la elaboracion del masato porque es feo. Dejo una pagina de cultura de una especie de su pais, si tiene observaciones seria bueno. Houlletia odoratissima Linden, ex Lindley & Paxton AKA: Hollutia antioquiensis hort. ex Bailey, Hollutia boliviana Schlechter, Hollutia buchtieni Kränzlin, Hollutia juruenensis Hoehne, Hollutia odoratissima var. antioquiensis André, Hollutia odoratissima var. xanthina Rchb. f., Hollutia picta Linden & Rchb. f. ORIGIN/HABITAT: Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Guyana, Brazil, Peru, and Bolivia. Plants grow on the shaded, forest floor in wet mountain forests of the lower eastern slopes of the Andes. In Peru, plants are found at about 2950 ft. (900 m) near Oxapampa in the Department of Pasco. CLIMATE: Station #84534, Tingo Maria, Peru, Lat. 9.1S, Long. 75.9W, at 2106 ft. (642 m). Temperatures are calculated for an elevation of 2950 ft. (900 m), resulting in probable extremes of 94F (35C) and 36F (2C). N/HEMISPHERE JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC F AVG MAX 83 85 85 84 84 84 83 82 83 83 84 83 F AVG MIN 60 61 61 62 62 63 63 63 63 63 62 61 DIURNAL RANGE 23 24 24 22 22 21 20 19 20 20 22 22 RAIN/INCHES 5.8 8.2 8.0 15.9 24.9 12.0 15.9 16.4 22.8 8.5 8.7 4.5 HUMIDITY/% 78 76 77 79 78 80 81 81 81 80 78 79 BLOOM SEASON * * * * * * * * DAYS CLR @ 7AM 2 3 3 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 DAYS CLR @ 1PM 15 12 9 3 4 4 4 1 4 2 7 12 RAIN/MM 147 208 203 404 632 305 404 417 579 216 221 114 C AVG MAX 28.5 29.4 29.4 28.9 28.9 28.9 28.3 27.8 28.3 28.3 28.9 28.3 C AVG MIN 15.7 16.1 16.1 16.7 16.7 17.2 17.2 17.2 17.2 17.2 16.7 16.1 DIURNAL RANGE 12.8 13.3 13.3 12.2 12.2 11.7 11.1 10.6 11.1 11.1 12.2 12.2 S/HEMISPHERE JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN Cultural Recommendations: LIGHT: 1800-2500 fc. Growers indicate that plants need moderate shade with dappled, diffused, or filtered light and protection from direct sun. Strong air movement should be provided at all times. TEMPERATURES: Throughout the year, days average 82-85F (28-29C), and nights average 60-63F (16-17C), with a diurnal range of 19-24F (11-13C). HUMIDITY: Near 80% most of the year, dropping to near 75% for 2-3 months in late winter and early spring. WATER: Rainfall in the habitat is very heavy all year. Cultivated plants should be watered heavily while actively growing, but drainage must be excellent, and conditions around the roots should never be stale or soggy. FERTILIZER: 1/4-1/2 recommended strength, applied weekly. A high-nitrogen fertilizer is beneficial from spring to midsummer, but a fertilizer high in phosphates should be used in late summer and autumn. REST PERIOD: Growing temperatures should be maintained all year. Water may be reduced some in winter, especially for plants grown in the dark, short-day conditions common in temperate latitudes, but plants should never dry out completely. Fertilizer should be reduced or eliminated until new growth starts and heavier watering is resumed in spring. GROWING MEDIA: These terrestrial plants should be grown in shallow, well-drained containers filled with an open, fast-draining medium that has excellent drainage, is well aerated, and does not become soggy after watering. Hawkes (1965) recommended that these plants be grown like tropical Phaius species in a rich but well-drained compost. Most growers suggest a mix of fir bark or shredded tree-fern fiber with various ratios of chunky perlite, pumice, charcoal, and coarse peat or chopped sphagnum added, depending on the conditions in the growing area and the watering practices of the grower. Bechtel, Cribb, & Launert (1986) recommended a mix of 6 parts bark, 1 part pumice, 1 part coarse peat, and 1 part charcoal or a mix of 6 parts bark, 3 parts of peat and/or live sphagnum moss. Plants should be repotted immediately if the medium starts to break down or once every few years if the plant outgrows its container. Repotting done just as new roots start to grow enables the plant to reestablish itself in the shortest possible time. Cassio van den Berg, a Brazilian orchid researcher, in a 1996 internet communication indicated that these plants appear to require a pH of less that 6.2. He went on to say, "I have had considerable success with Houllettia Odoratissima at sea level in my mist house. It grows on sticky white clay which is covered along with the pseudobulbs by a Selaginella sp. The pH was a remarkable 5.2. Mixtures of "good terrestrial mixes" of the same pH have not worked. They love to have their roots run along that sticky white clay which in turn seems to be where their mycrohizae like it. I have had no growth on sterilized white clay. Nor will the Selaginella for that matter!! The trick would seem to be a difficult one for a grower in the Temperate Zone - get the substrate with the plant! Folks who have had some success in the Temperate zone no doubt got plants with living fungi and a medium that the fungi liked. My current working hypothesis for rearing orchids is that the medium is for the fungus and the plants go along." MISCELLANEOUS NOTES: The bloom season shown in the climate table is based on cultivation records. Plant and Flower Information: PLANT SIZE AND TYPE: A large, up to 36 in. (91 cm), sympodial terrestrial. PSEUDOBULB: Up to 2.4 in. (6 cm) long by 1.2 in. (3 cm) wide. The clustered, pear-shaped pseudobulbs are lightly compressed with sharply angled edges. When young, they are concealed by a short-lived sheath that is 10-11 in. (25-28 cm) long which extends upward to also enclose the lower half of the leaf petiole. LEAVES: Up to 34 in. (85 cm) long including the stiff, slender, channeled petiole at the base. A single rather stiffly erect leaf is carried at the apex of each pseudobulb with a narrowly lanceolate blade that is 18-20 in. (45-50 cm) long by 2.6-3.0 in. (6.5-7.5 cm) wide. The leaf-blade has 7 prominent longitudinal ribs giving it the appearance of having fanlike folds. It tapers both above to a sharply pointed tip and below to merge with the slender petiole. INFLORESCENCE: Up to 16 in. (40 cm) long. The sturdy, erect inflorescence emerges from the base of a recently matured pseudobulb. Flowers are rather widely spaced in a loose raceme on the upper half of the spike. FLOWERS: 9-10. The nodding, waxy, long-lasting, fragrant blossoms have dark maroon sepals and petals with light brown near the base. The lip is white to pale greenish cream and is lined and spotted toward the base with pinkish red. The column is pale brown with a bright red foot and a pale yellow-green apex marked with red-maroon. Flowers are up to 3 in. (7.5 cm) across with fleshy, spreading, sharply pointed sepals and petals. The erect, concave dorsal sepal is narrowly elliptic, 1.4 in. (3.5 cm) long by 0.4 in. (1.1 cm) wide. The obliquely spreading, concave lateral sepals are also about 1.4 in. (3.5 cm) long but are up to 0.7 in. (1.9 cm) wide. They are joined with the column-foot at the base for 0.2-0.3 in. (0.6-0.7 cm) to form a short mentum. The obliquely spreading petals are about 1.2 in. (3 cm) long. They are narrowly lanceolate, spreading from a narrow base to about 0.4 in. (1 cm) wide above the middle and then tapering to a sharply pointed tip. The complex, 3-lobed lip is fleshy in the basal half, 0.8 in. (2 cm) long by 0.9 in. (2.4 cm) wide with erect, sharply pointed, linear-lanceolate side lobes that are sickle-shaped and curve forward in the apical half. The 3-lobed midlobe, which is separated from the basal part of the lip by a narrow isthmus, has sharply pointed, linear to narrowly triangular side lobes at its base that are somewhat erect and a rather square midlobe with a blunt apex except for a small, sharply pointed, triangular projection in the center of the apical margin. The slender, slightly arching column is 0.9 in. (2.3 cm) long and has prominent parallel wings above the middle that are about 0.4 in. (1 cm) long by less than 0.1 in. (0.1 cm) wide at their widest. The outer edge of the wings is almost straight, while the inner edge follows the gently curvature of the column. HYBRIDIZING NOTES: N/A.
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Mira como la preparación del masato segun he visto es masticando la yuca, haciendo un liquido en la boca y regurgitando en un recipiente....al menos asi lo hacen en las tribus de la selva aca en mi pais. Ahora tambien la hacen machacandola como puedes ver aca. Pero sabe rico de ambas formas
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Estraka!..si, esa misma es!!! este, pero de un Pisco sour no te escaparás.. Hola Francisco!....salud también! ...gracioso el animalito pero creo que Norman quiso decir Huánuco Norman!!!!Bienvenido!...increíble la ficha, mira aqui un reportaje completo de esa bella región de mi país! http://www.webhuanuco.com/fotos/thumbnails.php?album=search&cat=0&page=3 Saludos y sigamos festejando!...
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Francisco!...de verdad, de verdad lo has probado?????? Excelentes las pags. ya las tengo en favoritas! Norman!...ahora que sabes su preparación...que dices? te atreves a tomarte otro! Uhmmm, la Houlletia, bella!...gracias nuevamente Norman! Discúlpen que estoy escribiendo como la tortuga...hoy me tocó cocinar!... Saludos!
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Gracis por la explicacion, lo pensaba. fjchavez - ahora debes un trago tambien a Nicoli. Saludos, Miro.
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Bueno, el que yo me bebi creo que era de la forma moderna, jajajajaja, si no, ni modo, jajajaja. Esta muy bueno el documento.
Re: EL PERU Y SUS ORQUIDEAS II !!!! Lo probe sí lo probe, pero no se me paso por la mente que era masato.....ta' riko que es??? pregunte....ahh es masato me dijeron y yo ....... pero es muy rico.
