Perú y sus orquídeas I

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Saludos a todos los visitantes de este bello salón peruano! ....

Carlos, parece que es un odontoglossum bicolor...mira esta pag.: www.peruvianorchids.org/list.htm

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Phragper...entonces dirías que su cultivo es igual a las demás Lycastes...talvéz con un poco más de frio?....Por ejemplo yo tengo varias, entre ellas la macrophylla, les doy humedad; riego cuando el sustrato está seco, ventilación, frescor, media sombra....casi casi como a las phals!. y abono?....cuánto?, ahora a una la tengo en crecimiento...todavía podrá florecer esta estación?.

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Marcos Garcia....
Vuestras bellezas no se quedan atrás.... quién sabe podamos hacer algunos trueques muy pronto

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HOLA soy eduardo y con el permiso de todos los peruanos estare por aqui disfrutando de sus conocimientos de orquis en especial autoctonas de peru ya que muy pronto tendre unas peruanitas que un amigo peruano me mandara son la cattleya rex splas que es una delicia una joya un saludo y si tengo alguna consulta aqui estare de echo soy coleccionista en especial de cattleyas y mi sueño es algun dia conseguir PHRAPENDILUM PERUVIANUM NO SE COMO SE ESCRIVE EXSACTAMENTE AQUI ESTARE

 

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Son deciduas entonces, bueno, en que meses sucede?.

He estado leyendo un poco y encontre esto, esto no tiene que ver con la experiencia, que la tienen nuestros amigos peruanos, es por esto este tema tan importante.

The Section Fimbriatae
This is the final Section of Fowlie's consisting of nine species. These are distributed from Jamaica and Cuba to southern Brazil, but are principally concentrated in the Andes of Colombia, Ecuador and Peru. These are considered to be the oldest species of the genus which had ancestors predating the formation of the Andean mountains. The two geographically extreme members are found at sea level to 600 metres (2000 feet) elevation, with the other species rarely found below 1500 metres (5000 feet) above sea level; these forms believed by Fowlie to have evolved in such a way that they could withstand the progressively higher and cooler climates resulting from the uplifting mountain construction.

The species of this Section show a fine fimbration on the end of the lip, and are closely related to the genus Xylobium. The relevant species included are barringtoniae, ciliata, denningiana, futvescens, linguella, locusta, longipetala, longiscapa, and mesochlaena.

5.a Lycaste barringtoniae (Smith) Lindley

This was one of the earliest discovered plants being described in 1793 as Epidendrum barringtoniae. It was described by I.E. Smith from material collected in Jamaica, flowered by a Mrs Barrington, after whom it was named. It was transferred to Maxillaria in 1832, until Lindley created the genus Ly caste in 1844.

This species is said by Fowlie to be a fairly abundant inhabitant of the evergreen tropical forest of Cuba, Jamaica and Haiti, where it occurs from about 450 to 900 metres (1500 to 3000 feet) above sea level. It is limited to areas where heavy rain showers occur in our equivalent October to May, flowering, after a distinct period of rest, from the matured pseudobulb with the flush of new growth. The plant still bears leaves, and the flowers nod forward to shed the heavy rainfall.

This is an intermediate sized flowered species. Flowers come from pseudobulbs 60 - 80 mm long. Its sepals and petals are a very light clear apple-green, the tips tinged a tawny yellow-brown. The lip is a light translucent yellow-orange. One to three flowers are produced per growth, which have little fragrance.

Oakeley states this is not a promising subject for hybridisation because of the huge leaves produced.

5.b Lycaste ciliata (Ruiz, and Pavon) Lindley

The initial description of this species dates from 1798, with it also having been called at various times Maxillaria (Lycaste) fimbriata, Maxillaria (Lycaste) costata, Lycaste lata and Lycaste rossii (now considered a sub-species). Some confusion has occurred over the correct description of this species, the names Lycaste barringtoniae var. grandiflora and Lycaste mesochlaena sometimes being applied.

The name 'ciliata' literally means 'torn' in reference to the fimbrations of the labellum. The plant is said to be a fairly common inhabitant along creeks at some 1200 to 2000 metres (4000 to 6500 feet) elevations. It grows in places where the trees grow to a large size, and where higher humidity and dampness exist, causing a thick mat of humuus, the roots of the Lycaste imbedded in this. The areas were generally heavily shaded. The habitat suggests the plant is a heavy feeder, requiring damp media at all times, where a cool situation with abundant air flow is always provided.

Fowlie states this is a large flowered species, producing 1 to 8 flowers from the base of the pseudobulb made up the previous year while still in full leaf, and at the time of the flush of new growth in the spring. Large 100 to 120 mm pseudobulbs are produced. The flowers are 90 to 120 mm broad, faint but distinctly fragrant. The sepals and petals are very light creamy-white, suffused very light apple green. The lip is lighter cream with similar green suffusion. This is a large and distinctive species which Oakley describes as ' being a "magnificent species", although notes the flowers are short-lived "tending to go brown at the edges after a week". Limited use has been made of this species in breeding. It is native of the Andean Peru, Colombia, Ecuador and Bolivia.

Fowlie also reports a distinct sub-species, 'rossi'. Discovered in Brazil, and growing at a very low altitude, this sub-species is similar to Lycaste ciliata except for its smaller size (50 mm flowers). The flowers show sepals and petals very light green in colour, basally tinged tan. The lip is creamy white. Its habitat, both geographically and in elevation, is distinct.

5.c Lycaste denningiana Richb. f.

This was described after importation from Ecuador in 1876. This has been widely grown as Lycaste cinnabarina as it was not identified for some time with the earlier described plant on a subsequent rediscovery. This is considered by Dodson, reported by Fowlie, to be a natural hybrid between ciliata and longiptala. This 'species' grows some 1500 to 2200 metres (5000 to 7400 feet) above sea level, predominantly as a lithophyte on lava flows and moss covered rocks. The habitat receives warm mornings, no definite dry and wet seasons, most days clouding over after 3 pm, with heavy rains following.

This is said to be one of the showiest members of the genus, but there is a tremendous variation between plants, which may confirm its suspected hybrid parentage. It generally has, however, 150 mm flower stalks, a deep orange-red lip, with tawny yellowish sepals and petals. It is reported to come from Peru and Ecuador. Oakeley states it |grow?easily in the cool house to become an attractive specimen plant. Each pseudobulb produces three flowers, which last some two weeks. No successful breeding has been completed.

5.d Lycaste fulvescens Hooker

Originally collected in Colombia in-1842, it was first described in 1845, and has also been called Lycaste crocea. The specific name means 'tawny coloured', in reference to the characteristic colour of the labellum.

3 to 12 intermediate 60-80 mm broad flowers without noticeable fragrance are produced with the new growth in the spring. The petals and sepals are immaculate cream coloured, shaded light tan on the tips. The lip is a very light pale orange to dark cream with some darker suffusion. It grows some 1700 metres above sea level, and pomes from Colombia.

5.e Lycaste linguella Rchb. f.

This appears to be a lost species from Peru, not refound since its collection and description in 1871.

5.f Lycaste locusta Rchb.f.

This plant was discovered by a collector of Messrs. Veitch and Sons, being first described in 1879. The name 'locusta' means grasshopper, from Reichenbarch's remarks on the type description in which he said this species was "as green as a grasshopper".

The plant flowers in the spring while the plant still bears leaves on the matured pseudobulbs. One to two flowers without strong fragrance are produced, each 80 mm in diameter. The petals and sepals are very light greyish green. The lip is a darker green with a white margin, producing a striking effect. It is native of Peru.

Oakley advises this spectacular species grows at an elevation of some 600 metres (2000 feet) above sea level, requiring somewhat warmer (13-15 °C / 55-60 °F) growing conditions. Very heavy textured flowers are produced, which last two months on the plant. He notes a number of hybrids include this species.

5.g Lycaste mesochlaena Rchb.f

This plant was first described by Reichenbach in 1854 from material provided by the orchid collector Warecewicz from Peru. The name may be literally translated "cloaked at the middle", referring to the curious manner in which the lateral sepals are arched forward to protect the labellum. The plant atjimes also has been described as Lycaste cobbiana, Hort. ex Veitch and langipes, Lindley

This is not a common species. It flowers in the spring with the new growth. One to five flowers are produced, up to 50 mm in diameter, having no noticeable fragrance. The sepals and petals are very light white, the former suffused more darkly with green. The petals are clearer white, the lip immaculate white. Recent collections of this species have been from Ecuador. Herbert (M.R. Herbert "Two Interesting Lycastes and an Interloper" Orchid Review October 1981) states this is a lovely plant that grows well when treated in the same manner as the other high elevation fimbriate Lycastes. That is, very cool temperatures, plenty of ventilation, and not too hard a winter rest. He also states that like all the fimbriate Lycastes, mesochlaena is extremely sensitive of dissolved salts, and rainwater for watering is a must if the grower lives in an area where hard water only is available.

5.h Lycaste longipetala Ruiz and Pavon) Garay

This species was known for many years as Lycaste gigantea, but recent research reported by Fowlie but completed by Leslie Garay confirms that the name 'longipetala' is the correct one. This name (as a Maxillaria) dates from 1798 from descriptions of Ruiz and Pavon of Madrid, this being overlooked until the error was discovered in 1962. The epithet 'longipetala' refers to this species very long petals.

Frowlie notes this plant is a rather common inhabitant of the higher mountains of Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru, found usually between 1100 to 2150 metres (3500 "7000 feet) above sea level. It grows most commonly as an epiphyte on rocks, frequently along permanent creeks and streams. It often grows into large clumps in quite exposed positions. A study of its natural habitat has suggested to Fowlie that it seems to require more intense light, cooler temperatures, and a compost with greater humus content than most other Lycaste species. It grows higher and cooler than Lycaste macrophylla. Fowlie reports that throughout most of its range variations is evident; an 'alba' variety also exists.

This is one of the largest species of the genus, exceeded only by some forms of the L. macrophylla alliance. It flowers in the spring with the flush of new growth but while the leaves remain on the top of last year's pseudobulbs to 8 flowers are produced from the base of the latest pseudobulb, which are fainly although not particularly pleasantly fragrant. The flowers are very large, borne atop a 600 mm long petiole which may exceed the length of the leaves. The sepals and petals are a uniform light green, suffused tan over some areas. The lip is a bright burnt sienna red-brown with a lighter orange border.

5.i Lycaste longiscapa Rolfe ex E. Cooper

According to Summerhayes, this name was originally coined by R.A. Rolfe, who failed to prepare a type sheet or description. In 1930, Cooper, however, published a satisfactory description in the Orchid Review. Questions have been raised that this may also be the species known as barbifrons Lindl., although that may be another species which awaits rediscovery. The plant reichenbachii, described in 1856 from Peru may also be this species; if this is validated the plant would have to adopt that name, as that would then constitute the earliest description

This is a large member of this group, flowering on the flush of new growth from usually bare pseudobulbs. One to three flowers are usually produced after a distinct period of rest. Flowers have a pleasant fragrance, and are 50 to 60 mm in diameter. The sepals and petals are tan suffused very light green. The lip is orangeish-tan to orange with a bright reddish-orange, highly ornate, callus. Oakley states it is an uncommon species, with no recorded hybrids.

5.j Lycaste dyeriana, Sander ex Rolfe.

This species was originally described as a Lycaste by Rolfe who commented on its anomalous appearance. It is a pendulous species with different foliage and pseudobulbs. It is believed by Fowlie to be closer to the genus Bifrenaria than Lycaste; for this reason Fowlie excluded this species from his monograph. This is a Peruvian plant. Herbert notes it grows in a pendulous manner like Cattleya (Encyclia) citrina, and suggests it may have to be established in a genus of its own.

5.k Lycaste mathiasiae Kennedy

In the Orchid Digest (April May 197 George C Kennedy noted that a plant that was thought to be initially a hybrid between locusta and ciliata should now be recognised as a new species - named Lycaste mathiasiae - after its discoverer.

It was originally found by Dr Mildred Mathias in Peru in 1962, its correct identification as a species in its own right requiring considerable study to eliminate the possibility that it may be only a natural hybrid. Kennedy now believes that the available evidence confirms it is a valid species, and it has now been used in breeding (crossed with Lycaste Macama to produce Lycaste Wyuna).

Kennedy describes this species as having pseudobulbs 100 mm tall, by 60 mm x 40 mm clustered together, wrinkled with age. Two-three leaves are produced 450 mm long, 60 mm wide, which persist during flowering. Usually three to many one flowered inflorescences are produced in the spring, with the new growth. Each flower is showy, 8 ^cm wide when fully expanded. Its petals and sepals are pale leaf green, the petals somewhat lighter. The lip is light yellow-green, bearing a prominent lip callus.

 

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Creo que el color de la flor es media moradita con amarillo, aunque quien sabe pues no recuerdo bien.
Pues como tú, también la puse en una plancha de osmunda (por cierto CarmenBc la foto es del 2006) pero se deshidrato asi que la pase a maceta en una mezcla de turba y carbon. Te decia de los puntitos pues a mi me paso que comenzaron a extenderse paulatinamente, incluso en los nuevos brotes, aplique fungicida (use Aliette) pero igual seguian saliendo, actualmente solo me queda la quinta parte de la planta que vez en la foto.
Te recomiendo que la vigiles y veas si comienzan a salir esos puntitos en los nuevos brotes y si logras controlarlos o encuentras el pork salen me avisas

 

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Hola A Todos:

Los felicito por el nuevo salon, se le ve acogedor. Como voy al Perú este año, cuando llegue ya estaré aleccionada con tanta info de allá que estan dando aqui.

Bueno, de mi parte cultivo Dendrobium, Oncidium, Cattleyas, Vandas, Ascodendas, Renantheras, Rynchostylis, Epidendrum, Gramatophyllums, Phalaenopis y Brasolaeliocattleyas.

En lo que pueda colaborar con mucho gusto. Ya les pondré fotos de las ultimas floracione de mis Gramatophyllum. Por cierto, tenemos uno que nos ha regalado 10 varas florales a la vez y otro que nos regaló una vara de 3 metros de largo. Ya les comento...

Saludos,

Patricia G de Ortega
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Hola Patricia cuando estes en Peru avisas asi te podria dar corte de alguna cattleya especial.
Ahora cambiando de tema, bonitas fotos nicoli pero tu violacea esta mega deshidratada, manten el sustrato siempre humedo con muxo calor como es el clima de la molina, puedes subir foto de tu odonto wya... para verla completa?
Hermanos peruanos cambiemos info para asi poder progresar, cuiden lo del peru, recuerden que si cambian plantas es un problema mandar como recibir, si van a recibir les abriran el pakete en serpost y sino cuentan con la documentacion necesaria pues le ke kitaran todo, podemos juntarnos para conseguir buenos clones A1 de esos lycastes ke a muxos les gusta o laelias,
yo se que algunos visitantes del foro estan interesados en algunas plantas como normancash en las idas/lycastes, si dices ke hagamos un foro para aprender de las plantas para luego dejarlas en la naturaleza porque pìdes ke salgan de su patria, eso es depredar, para lo cual le recomendaria a este señor ke visite a un vivero en su pais y compre ahi, o sino que las observe en google.
Saludos a todos y tomen conciencia de ke lo que tienen en el Peru es realmente muy valioso

 

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Hola Norman Cash!...bienvenido!!...

interesante artículo, he tratado de traducirlo con mis poquísimos conocimientos del Inglés, pero no me conformo con entenderlo a medias y me interesaria realmente tener su traducción completa. Ojalá puedas ponerlo en español. Mil gracias

TRex!...perdóna el apuro, se me pasó felicitarte por ese sargentianum espectacular!....Gracias por los consejos....ahora mismo voy a regar a fondo a la violácea....en realidad por estos días todas están medio deshidratadas pués el tiempo no me da abasto -

Te muestro odontoglossum, la planta completa...



También tengo esta...me encanta y su perfume es increíble!....


No es muy grande pero su perfume y belleza lo supera todo....


Pensar que la puse en cualquier envase de plástico....reciclado!.

Ay, y volviendo a las phrags....así quedó mi caudatum luego de la incursión de mi perro!


Pero se salvaron tres espatas!, vaya!, si que son fuertes


Por último, como lo prometido es deuda aqui el nuevo brote de mi PP...


te acuerdas que te conté que una de las matitas se estaba pudriendo?, la de adelante?...que talvéz era mucho riego?....pués paré la mano y empezó a recuperarse....

Bueno, que opinas?...todavía estará a salvo mi PP?....

Saludos!

 

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a tu odonto kitale la vara floral para que no se desgaste y dedicate a enraizarla, en tu caudatum le has puesto musgo verde??? si es asi sacaselo.
bonita kovachii cual de las dos ke tienes es esa?

 

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Gracias Nicoli, voy a tratar de hacer la traduccion.


Joven T-rex, es muy grato sentir tu espiritu conservacionista, pero creo que me estas acusando de algo, de lo que desconozco, de que me acusa?, he hecho una pregunta puntual acerca del grupo fimbriato de lycaste que usted conoce, el animo creo de hacer una distincion a las muy lindas especies de peru es para conocerlas, me gustaria sin animo a ofenderle, si no que creo como muy conocer de su flora de que me regale una explicacion orientada mas a la taxonomia no esperando a escuchar comentarios absolutos, porque ofende a los demas paises y tome en cuenta de que aqui es una comunidad, no es un foro particular para hablar de un par de especies de cattleyas y de Phragmipedium o que tome actitudes no muy gratas que me explique de este grupo y que me cuente acerque del genero de las Ida (Propuesto por el señor Henry Oakeley) , pero no de cultivo, quiero que me hable de taxonomia al respecto, me gustaria leerlo de usted.

 

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si kisiera hablar de taxonomia me voy a la universidad a que me expliken mis profesores botanicos y dendrologos segun sea el caso;
no hablo solamente de phrags no de cattleyas, es mas no he dicho nada de estos generos mas solo publike unas fotos que cabe aclarar no eran para ke las vieras tu, sino para dos amigas;
sobre despreciar orchids: solo respondi a alguien ke las phrags ni catts x puñado de lycastes, no he ofendido a las plantas, ni en ningum momento despreciarlas;
sobre envio: si se siente acusado es problema suyo, tengo entendido ke kiere intercambiar LYCASTE/IDA x algunas plantas suyas, el hecho de que salga material genetico es un robo alimentado por el hecho de tener alguna planta novedosa.
con usted no tengo ningun problema ya que recien con el privado que me mando(sobre si tengo algun problema contugo y de la coriantes) me he dado cuenta ke existia
Lo que necesita el salon es metodos, medios, abonos, asesoria para cultivar porque todo lo teorico se encuentra en google o yahoo o en las universidades
Saludos cordiales a los del salon Peru

 

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Perú,tambien llamada tierra de las orquideas.He estado leyendo,que en vuestro pais,hay mas de 3.000 especies ¨conocidas¨...Aqui en casa,admiramos toda la belleza que teneis,tanto la actual ,como la magica historia de vuestra cultura.Viajar se me hace caro,pues vivo en una pequeña isla,pero siempre me queda la forma de ir por el mundo mas barata que existe,los documentales.

 

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Srs buenas tardes con gusto veo este foro, hace muchos años que cultivo orquideas, llegue a tener 180 especies sin embargo por distintos motivos tuve que dejar esta pasion, hoy nuevamente retomo mi hobbie y he comenzado con mis 3 primeras orquideas !!! jajaja si ya se !!!!! mi clasicaaaaaa catleyita maxima, un pragmipedium parceii y un mormodes rolfeanum... vamos aver como me va. Saludos

 

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a ti y a otra española(ke otra española??) si vi ke escribiste pero ni lo abri. no se ke te incomoda a ti mi respuesta si nadie toca contigo para ke perder el tiempo, yo respondo a alguien especifico, no derivo nada a ningun lado sino digo las cosas defrente, si para ti te parece correcto el mandar especies sin papeles es cosa tuya, en cambio para los ke somos concientes no lo hacemos... no pierdo mas tiempo contigo

Nicoli retira el musgo verde de tus plantas, trae hongos....